Nate continues with his W.W.J.D. series. Nate takes on probably the most controversial subject in all of Christendom; that would be abortion. What would Jesus do when faced with abortion?
IT HAPPENED AGAIN: This is what Mario Murillo states in is article loathing the fact that “millions of Spirit-filled Christians voted for the Democratic party.” Oh no! We are going to reap God’s judgment now! The silliness of the Evangelical church does not stop! Murillo is one of its clowns leading a three ring circus of fear. I want break down his article; but first I want to let you know why I am writing this. I am not against Murillo; I am against the division this type of rhetoric creates. Basically it is implied that Republicans are the party of God and Democrats the party of Satan. Of course it is the same issue, abortion; and well add in some sex to spice it up. Evangelicals seem to be more fascinated with sex than a teenager.
I am not accusing Murillo of being a racist as he assumes some people may think; I truly understand why he believes the way he does. I can understand this type of Christianity because I once possessed similar theology. Murillo is disappointed in the African American church in which he claims 90% voted for the Democratic Party. I am sure he used sound research to come up with that statistic. Before that statement he seems offended by a quote which states “White men are the biggest terror threat.” Well it is true. The white race has caused more terrorism in the United States than any other to date. He writes in horror that “We are left with the inescapable conclusion that born-again and Spirit-filled Christians in large numbers voted for the Democratic Party.” Oh no! Not the Democratic Party! The Party that desires to expand healthcare, raise the minimum wage, protect the rights of minorities, and just be nice people to each other. We do not need to change religious beliefs Murillo, we need to get our hermeneutics correct; or at least try. I think love would fall into a good category to start.
But of course I hate the babies because I support democrats; how can I be a Christian and vote pro-? Life, death, I do not know; can we just stop! We could be more of a church if we decided to let go of our theological egos. Can we ever admit that even the most adept theologian cannot explain “clearly” verses in the Bible? As ministers we try by God’s grace. Claiming absolute knowledge is lying to the people who trust us.
Murillo claims that, “A vote is not a statement just of what you are against but also what you are for.” Well if that was the case we never would vote. We cannot be for and or against everything a politician or a Party is for. His claim makes no sense. And here we go Psalms 138:13 we can spin verses however you want, let me assure you none of them are clear. “For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb.” The Psalmist seems to be expounding on his desire to be in God’s presence from beginning to end, to be delighted in the Lord, to allow the Lord to search him and be united to him. I really do not think that David understood biology or medical science very well. But maybe; who knows? Regardless I am not a fan of abortion; who is? It is a serious event in a woman’s life that can be forever life altering. As a Christian I would never counsel anyone to have an abortion, and I would never judge a woman who has. It is not my place, my places to love not legislate morality. We do not know what put that woman in that place. We cannot understand her pain. Further if you want to play by Murillo’s rules by voting Republican you are voting to keep in place policies that create catalyst for abortions. Poverty being a major catalyst; but who cares about the poor as Jesus said, “They will always be with us.” See, I can spin verses like records.
Murillo states, “Have you ever wondered why Planned Parenthood fights so hard to convince a fetus is not a person? Even they know, if a fetus is indeed a person abortion is taking a human life.” No, Mario I did not, and you did not give us your opinion either. I am assuming because you think that Planned Parenthood is some demonic entity that is bent on killing as many unborn babies as possible. I am sure you think that they have a production goal that they must reach. You, and Evangelicals like you are what is dividing the church. I can agree with you on some points. I do not think that abortions should be celebrated, life is precious; all life. We do not however know when a fetus is ensouled. We don’t and we probably never will. To believe, at the time of conception is just a guess.
You state that some Democrats believe that the Bible can be hateful. Yes, it can be hateful. The KKK, the Confederate Army, and slave owners defended their actions with Bible verses. You say that we should not leave Jesus out of the voting booth, I agree. The fact is the majority of the Republicans platforms are anti-Christ. You are right, we are seeing damage done by Christians the problem is it is coming from you; not the people you are pointing fingers at.
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Can you be pro-life and pro-choice? Maybe not, although the definition is not always black and white. At The Backyard Preacher Ministries, we are pro-choice, but in every way possible our pro-choice stance could be looked upon as pro-life. I took it upon myself to clarify my stance and write about abortion from a progressive Christian perspective. I find it particularly ripe to bring about this topic, once again here in the state of Iowa the powers that be, governor Kim Reynolds took it upon herself to sign a very quickly pushed law spear headed by religious zealots without consideration of the ramifications. My friend Jon Alexander of the Quad City Times writes a more in-depth editorial here.
My purpose is to enlighten and explain the matter of life from a Christian perspective. A rational Christian perspective, which has long since been abandoned by Evangelicals in the United States. Do I like abortion? No, I do not like the act of abortion. After talking to several women and listening to views from both sides of the debate women do not like abortion either. I will also not overstep my bounds as a man and claim to know what is best. As a Christian do I believe that abortion is murder? Truthfully, I do not know. There is something called the transmigration of souls, this is a belief which the early church and religious scholars have wrestled with. When does the soul of a person enter the fetus? Many Evangelicals would say that life starts at conception. While biologically this is true life does start at conception; that is cells are alive. The question that more Evangelicals should ask is when do those cells become a human, and when does the spirit of a person, “their true self” enter into a fetus? No one knows, and when you do not know something, it is wise not to demand. While I do not support abortion, I would prefer that women choose life, but I am not walking in their shoes, I do not know their situation, and will not speak for them. There are many complications that will come about from the new Iowa law. Alexander speaks to the financial, I am speaking more to the social. Will this result in women going out of state to have abortions? Will women have “back alley” abortions? Will women carry the baby even when they cannot afford another child pushing women and the new child into a greater cycle of poverty? I do not know, but these are things to think about.
As I said I am pro-life, in every sense. I am against the death penalty, against war, I support strong gun control. I desire for people to prosper and live life to the fullest. It amazes me that Evangelicals who have pushed the abortion law in Iowa have no problem sending young people to die in senseless wars, strap people into death chambers, and arm themselves with weapons of war which are responsible for children killing children in public schools. I want to remind my Evangelical friends that we do not know when the spirit enters the fetus, we do however know that existing people are alive in every way. There is also the cycle of poverty which is prevalent within the United States. The church conducts overseas mission’s trips but often neglects the people who live within their own borders. In the wealthiest country in the world many condemn the poor as weak and lazy, yet do nothing for them but call them murderers and fornicators. Women have abortions which more than likely would be prevented if she was financially capable of raising the child. The whole situation is sad. I preach life, a life in which all people have choice. I nor any other Christian knows when the spirit of a person enters a fetus. I nor any other Christian can walk in another’s shoes. The new abortion bill makes abortion essentially illegal before most women even know they are pregnant. Let me let you chew on these concluding thoughts.
Evangelicals stop worrying what a small percentage of women do with their bodies. If you want to stop abortion push laws that will lift people out of poverty. Pass laws providing affordable education, so people can find jobs which will pay for a family. Let us start teaching sex education not only in school but in our churches. Thinking that our kids are not having sex before marriage is absurd and not teaching about safe sex practices leads to possible abortions. Pass laws restricting weapons of war in the hands of citizens, I do not think that it is responsible to be able to possess the same weapons I used in the military, which only purpose was to kill another human. Speaking of the military let us stop getting into senseless conflicts and supporting the death of our children. I know that this message may not be popular with my Evangelical friends, yet it is a message which I felt compelled to bring as I have observed the recent cries of the people on both sides of this debate. Can we be both pro-life, and pro-choice? Maybe? I do not know, but what I do know is it is more important to protect the lives of the already born, this includes the women who choose abortion.
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Nate continues his 5 part series in this 4th episode Nate talks about abortion, the minimum wage, and healthcare. Yes this is a religious podcast, so why the social issues? Jesus was about the needs of the people so as Christians so should we.
I am not a big fan of hunting. Not because I am against it, but because I have certain beliefs that surround the act of hunting animals. First and foremost I believe that we must eat what we kill. God has given us various livestock that have been created for human consumption. I also do not have what it takes to kill, gut, and skin an animal. I am also a huge animal lover. So therefore I am not going to be a hunter. I think you probably know where this is going. Cecil a beloved lion in Africa was recently killed by an American who has a past time of hunting trophies. Now I always try to put myself in someone else’s shoes. I am sure this man thought what he was doing was okay. We are known to justify anything that gives us pleasure. Obviously he has friends they must have known of his trophy hunting. Many have probably been admiring his collection for years. I am just guessing but if one spends thousands of dollars for a head I am sure he had them mounted so all his visitors could view his conquest. I am also sure it is a very thrilling experience to stalk a deadly animal and kill it. Something that reaches back to man’s primal existence.
Let me make it clear, I am against the hunting of these creatures. It makes no sense to kill these animals. God has placed them on this earth for us to be stewards of. God cares even for the sparrow, he surely cares for all of the other creatures of his creation. Switching gears a bit let me allow you to look at the hunter within. I found it very disturbing to see the hate in which many have placed on this man. Most people had no idea about this lion, until mob mentality took over. Everything I read on social media is encouraging revenge on the dentist from Minnesota. Many are even asking for his death. How crazy is that! We humans have are priorities backwards. It is the human who was created in the likeness and image of God. It is the human who is a little lower than the angels, and it is the human in whom Jesus was incarnated in order to bring salvation to the world. So I say every person calling for the death of Walter Palmer is just as bad as he is. We humans like to seek out and prey on others. It is the thrill of the hunt. Who can we shame next? Who we can gang up on and destroy because they are doing something outside of the social norm. So who is the hunter? Who is seeking the thrill of the hunt? I am not saying Walter Palmer is innocent, but I am not saying you are either. You’re a social justice abuser. You cry over a lion no one has heard of, but no tears are shed over aborted babies. What in the world is wrong with us? I guess it is just the human condition, I really shouldn’t be surprised. Man is evil from birth. Yet does that give us the reason to persecute our fellow brothers and sisters. No, we should be able to respond in a dignified humane way instead of acting like the man we are shaming. So what would I say to Mr. Palmer? I think I would tell him that I understand that you are a hunter and have been doing this along time. For the most part you were under the radar. Now everything is in the light. I am sure you are only sorry that you were caught. Maybe you should realize that these animals are rare and precious. If you committed a crime you should answer to the crime learn from this experience and move on with your life.
What comes to my mind when people hunt big game for no other reason but a trophy is their decreased sensitivity to life in general. On the flip side do those who throw stones especially through social media also have a disregard for life? It is certainly easy to run your mouth online, yet I doubt 90% of these social justice warriors wouldn’t dare speak to this man’s face. This guy kills lions with bows and arrows, I am sure that he also has plenty of high powered rifles laying around. Also Lions and big game are not necessarily innocent creatures. They are not my kitten who is sleeping next to me as I write this. A lion will kill you. Bears will kill you. They will have no remorse, and social media wouldn’t make a sound. These animals will even cannibalize their offspring. People talk about humanity being violent and humans being the destruction of the planet, the animal kingdom is much more ferocious. I am sure you have watched the lion killing dozens of gazelle on TV. I am not saying this to justify the actions of Mr. Palmer, I am saying it because there is always two sides to every story. God desires us to be good stewards of the world in which we live. We have majestic creatures in which we should protect if possible. Yet in reality many of the endangered species will go extinct just as the many before. Dinosaurs once ruled the planet and nature took its course, now only bones remain. So when I woke up today to notice social media going nuts over this dentist in Minnesota, my first thoughts were not about the lion it was about the cruelty that our fellow man shows to each other. This man didn’t kill another human, he may have broken the law but nothing deserving of death. So just think about it next time you’re out and about and maybe do something that could leave you shamed. I guarantee we all have been there. Or think of your past and the little secrets that you wish to remain hidden. Being aware that we are human, and giving each other grace will be a major step in helping your own life find peace. I have found that people who like to cast stones have some kind of issue which is putting their life out of balance. I could understand if this man killed another human being, but he did not. I am not defending his actions, but defending him from the absolutely crazy responses from our social media warriors. So speak easy and with reason, or don’t speak at all. Blessings!